Humans make a choice to attack you and deserve what they get. wolves Not totally true. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. Little meat damage and with a WC or Semi WC will certainly do the job. delivered him from a mortal fate. I own a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley with a 5 1/2 inch barrel ,among other larger caliber handguns , and it is far and away my favorite for handgun hunting or a defensive woods gun. Buffalo bore makes a 380 grain hardcast gas checked round now too. I carry a 10 round 9mm when bow and black powder hunting in Black Bear country. Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. What do you know! It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. More than half of those were fawns. My first handgun was just that at age 18, and now I tote a Blackhawk Hunter in .45, loaded with 325 gr HC with GC and 22 grains of H-110 (Ruger Blackhawk or Thompson Contender ONLY!!!) A single action handgun is not a good choice as a defense weapon in any scenario. His eyes were as wide as saucers, and he was taking strides twice as long as his normal gait would produce. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. A starting load of 3.9 grains was decided on, and the first rounds were loaded up. your comments hold great weight with me!! There was also a guy who used the Air Force M6 .22 LR/.410 GA over/under rifle/shotgun. You dont need a laboratory test to confirm that it was behaving strangely. Mr. Shoemakers observations about irrational fear, opinions based on nonexperience or shilling, and the need for multiple hits in a hurry are the most astute and real world in this series. thank you kindly for sharing your extensive knowlege and guidance.I would be interested in your opinion of Underwood extreme penetrator cartridge 44 mag or 45 lc as to changing the attitude of a not well intentioned any bear . Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. to a .22 or .32 the .38 Special 148 grain lead target wad-cutter is ideal for these purposes. Im glad she now carries the Liberty ammo. Does Bear Spray work?.. Look it up. It was there all night and broke its leg, trying to get free. Crossdraw holster. My handloads push a 200gr hardcast bullet to just under 1300fps. Their saliva or blood can kill you even after the animal itself is already dead. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. During the same period, persons defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. LAR Grizzly 45 Win Mag. No semi-auto makes the grade except perhaps the .50 AE, but most ammo for that fails due to bullets. Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. Full size 9mm is better, a rifle/shotgun with it's longer sight radius is even better (with the .380 as a backup still). They always seem to show up. Perry can dispatch a coyote with a Ruger LCP you most certainly could do it with .38 Special +p or not and it will also kill a mountain lion. Both holsters always pack into camp with me. 4 5/8 inch barrelpretty comfortable to carry . Protect your neck, throat, and head. You could see he was definitely sizing [P.J] up, Smith said. The grizzly and brown bears are a completely different story. The Casull is an updated and slightly elongated version of the .45 Colt, fully capable of firing .45 Colt ammunition. At the same time, we're trying to be as supportive and helpful to property owners as possible.". So that information has sort of vanished.. Not your problem when facing a legitimate threat from a bear. sounds like you have too many guns and cant decide on which one to take. AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. The police standard is not to let a person get closer than 21 feet with a weapon like a knife, club etc with out being engaged. However, I dont think that a short barrel revolver will produce such a velocity. Wolves are more of a threat. They only penetrated a 1/4 of an inch, while the .357 round went through the skull and ended up about nine inches deep in the neck. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. A handgun was what you might carry out to take a dump at night to make you feel better. Teardrop-shaped toes. thanx again. My advice would be take the largest caliber you can comfortably handle. After being carjacked 2 years ago, I WILL NOT be a victim, again. CCIs classic .38 Special shot or snake I learned more in this article about wildlife and practical sidearms than any other article to date in thirty-five plus years. Even If you carry anything less than a S&W 500 Magnum 4 inch for self protection in this state while in the outdoors you are playing with fire. Not only is a 45 Colt that is hand loaded right there with the 44 magnum, or even out performing the 44 magnum. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. If that is the mountain lion in the background why is it field dressed. The compilation lists 61 mountain lion attacks that resulted in injuries in the 16 and a half years, and at least 31 cases where attacks were thwarted by aggressive action. of course be loaded and kept down loaded with .38 Special ammo (modern). Absolutely. I bought Bear Loads in .45 LC and .357 MAG, but they were both hollow points (300 & 180 grains, respectively). The lion ignored the adults in the group and went right for the children. Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. Can you show any proof that we are destroying anything? I want POWER ! I found it on the Internet in a read only document. We see bears here and there I have never had to shoot one however I carry my Freedom Arms 454 Casull 7 1/2 Barrel. There are some real men out there who have seen a bear in a zoo and have shot their 500 SW 4 times 6 years ago. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. Will a 9mm or 38 spl kill a bear? Loaded with good ammunition, either of these Smith & Wesson .44 Magnums will make excellent bear medicine. The black bears have been stopped with pistols, rifles, shotguns and once with an ax. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? 50 round box should last a lifetime. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: You combine the penetration of .45 Long Colt with the facial (and nose) disruption of a .410 shotgun shell. No mention here of my favorite back woods carry gun, a 50 cal Desert Eagle. What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. Changing, yes, but then you look at the ravages of the recent volcanoes and all the CO2 released. It was the first handgun I ever purchased, and I put a considerable amount of thought into it. I read with interest the side arms in bear country. Folks need to realize that most .45 Colt cases are not strong enough to handle those high pressure loads even if the gun could. If you are confronted by a bear, leave the deer or food and do not run as this triggers the predators instinct to charge after you as prey. You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. I have a hard time believing when pressed in close quarters, that they would do well with a .410 load in the face. I agree, a 9mm is not something I would trust. I have a Springsfield 460 Rowland and 400 CarBon for bears and back cup with 357 Mag in a Tarus 7 shoot to stop any bear. Loaded with a hard cast 250 gr bullet at about 1050. This calls for a heavy crimp (I use a Redding profile crimp die and seat and crimp in two seperate operations useing H-11O or Win. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This is all interesting to a curious 75 yo ..better for me to stay out of bear country. 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. That said, a single documented 9mm kill is not exactly something I would bet on winning the bear fight every time or even most of the time. They truly are amazing creatures: When you're out strolling in the woods, there's no way for you to defend yourself from a mountain lion using an air rifle. a Ruger Blackhawk, chambered in .45 Colt, stainless finish with a 7 -inch barrel. That is your choice. the game warden. with my S&W 500 magnum. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. When confronted by a threat.. you need to tick off a very short, well reasoned and practiced list. counter-shrunk chambers, and original factory Goncalo Alves target grips. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). If we had a true list of every cartridge throughout history that killed a bear we would surely be suprised by dozens of them! This may not have been a great time for firearm but it begs the questions: (1) What's a good caliber to stop a cat at 3 - 20 yds, and (2) what kind of round (solid, hollow point)? Just my 2 cents for whats its worth. Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. They come in 45 Win Mag and 50 AE as well. Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. I rather be over gun then under gun. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . Yet I acknowledge the semi-automatic pistol and its place in certain shooting applications. fresh kill 1994 watch online. Magnum Research 45-70 isnt bad either ! Option to use 45 colt 454 cas and 460 mag. I have had to kill a couple Grizzlies, and have had numerous Mexican stand offs, over moose or caribou kills. Do you have a problem with this model? An exceedingly interesting question. Handloads push a 300-grain to just over 1,000 fps, so it just cracks the code. The short barrel clears the holster fast and the Ruger frame is tougher than the S&W. There is a term for that. He saved them both, barely, with his .338 rifle. Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. In that vein, and considering the real vs. imaginary threat posed by bears, a familiar 9mm loaded with non-expanding bullets is a lot better than a heavy .44 or .500 you left at home or are not completely proficient with. From one Phil to another, sage advice. Flat shooting gun with a lifetime warranty. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. This one took exception.) The 12-year-old in Alaska who just shot the brown with the shotgun is the son of a good friend. OMG! Federal, I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. The lion was dead before the mule Berry took and shook the lion. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. 3-6 .357 mag with 200g hardcast at 1250fps or more, depending on barrel length. With a 5 inch un-ported barrel, 300 grain hard cast solids, cut an X on the point with a fine hack saw about 1/8 of an inch deep. Hunting, I prefer to carry a .460 Roland built on .45 Colt ACP 1911 chassis. Its a simple concept. I think it was POOR ARTICLE FROM A PERSON WHO IS SITTING IN AN ARM CHAIR MOSTLY AND BASTE ON HEAR SAY. I have yet to set foot in Alaska, but I have many friends and colleagues who either live there, or have significant hunting experience in the 49th state, where encounters with brown bears can honestly represent the hunter becoming the hunted. Good luck It is not as if that information is widely out there ..This is part of a Strategy. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. Use a handgun. It took two more rounds to bring it down, running about 60 yards. The Complicated Truth About Mountain Lion Encroachment. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 My 10mm load is right at 700. The examination of the animal, believed to be about 3 years old, suggests it was an opportunistic predator and not starving because deer, its natural prey, had been over-hunted, as . Exactly. (https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf) RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. black bears That wont be possible until my kids are out of college, though. If the attacking bear is perfectly downwind, you will have some chance with bear spray. The mountain lion known as P-56 was killed January 27, 2020. Mountain lions are a specially protected species in California. The FORGOTTEN GUN (but one of the best Alaska Bear Guns) is the Ruger .480 7.5 OR 10. coyotes But these loads would likely destroy an old Peacemaker, or other similar guns. By Anders Anglesey On 11/3/21 at 11:39 AM EDT. My colleague and friend Bryce Towsley (brycetowsley.com) is a veteran gun writer who has considerable experience with bears of all sorts. A large caliber handgun is a must. If I know ahead of time that Im heading into black bear country, I like to carry my big handgun: a Ruger Blackhawk, chambered in .45 Colt, stainless finish with a 7 -inch barrel. Lighter, cheaper, and much better statistics than any conceivable 38spl load. .38 special have been a huge disappointment for me. Its jackass. It is same size as glock 21 (45 acp) so you can practice with the 45 for a lot cheaper. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. They dont respond the same way as healthy animals. By the time I am loaded with bow, backpack, and tree stand, I am at 50 plus pounds and I am 50+. His cousin, the brown bear, is an entirely different story; when a brown bear means business you need to stop the threat and stop it fast, by any means necessary. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. He very clearly laid out the steps required and when someone should shoot a bear in self defense.. His commentary may still be out there on the web but a quick search did not turn it up.. Of course because political activists have infiltrated Rangers and such.. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! I am a handgun hunter who lives in Wyoming and hunts the Beartooth. What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? An interesting piece giving advice from expert typewriter shooters to bear hunters. carry ! The wife and I carry 7.5 Ruger Redhawks in 480 Ruger. Ive lived and hunted and fished in Alaska since 1993. . I carry both in a Blackhawk Alaska Guide Holster in the field, and in a Galco leather CCW holster under my belt in town: since being on TV, I learned that stalkers can be just as dangerous a charging bear. But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. . If we didnt carry our primary hunting rifle, we carried a shotgun. Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. We hadnt thought of that. and driving a rig your not in the Alaskan brush. This was a glaring example of surprise; this area, while remote, rugged and wooded, wasnt known for its bear population, very few had ever been seen there, but that one bear had my employees undivided attention. Somewhere in my Paper Archives I have the Professors commentary and a stages of a Bear attack and at what point in his own words .. it is time to Shoot the Bear. Or even for butchering livestock. Penetration and shot placement are king. I believe he used a 9mm. But so But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. The spent shell casings can end up lost in the grass, sagebrush, bushes, woods, A study done by US Fish and Wildlife produced the following results. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. A woman was killed by a cougar, in Washington State a couple of weeks ago, while mountain biking. I read that several times as well. white-tailed deer She had gone out to get water and as she left she picked up her grandfathers .22 because up there you just never leave the cabin without a gun. Then when we were at Cabelas, I compared the photo on my phone to all the cougar mounts and none came anywhere close. The Freedom Arms Model 83, in .454 Casull, in a serious piece of gear. Jim Farmer Just holes. Im sure that by now youve all heard about famous Alaskan bear guide Phil Shoemaker (grizzlyskinsofalaska.com) , who thwarted a grizzly attack with a Smith & Wesson 9mm automatic, loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast ammunition. It will drive a 300-grain bullet to over 1,600 fps. Im not against revolvers. They are considered important in maintaining ecosystems and controlling other animal populations such as deer, its preferred prey. A lion's natural life span is probably about 12 years in the wild and up to 25 years in captivity. Ive ditch my .460 Rowland. But you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? More is always better and the bullet is the key. where do you come up with this bullshit. next fly out someplace and sleep in a tent than write something that means something. Being aware that sounds and smell plays a role in a bears survival by detecting prey, keep food or harvested deer meat or other game tightly contained as it would be analogous to swimming in blood filled water with man-eating sharks. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. Its not the bear in the fight, its the fight in the bear. He agreed the animal was huge. based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. Yes and no.. In the question of "Is the .22 LR Long Rifle within the ideal range of suitable calibers for cougar or . That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! 38 special will kill you just as dead as a . Dick Casulls brainchild improves the ballistics of the .45 Colt even in modern handguns and provides an entirely different performance level for those who can handle it. Jul 30, 2019. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. Its certainly not the lightest sidearm weighing in at just over 3 pounds, fully loaded in its holster but when Im forced to enter bear country, I have absolutely no worries. Roughly the same size as my 8 S & W 44 mag, but a lot more fire power. bobcats @1,200+ FPS and a 300gr. Certain poisons meant to kill rodents, called anti-coagulant rodenticides, end up in the tissues of mountain lions. His wife left Houston shortly after he passed. A mountain lion would win a fight against a wolf. He put his paw on his shoulder. Lets get my own choices out of the way first. Predator animals act by instinct when challenged and hunt for food not to rob you or for the pleasure of killing you. If he does not already carry a firearm then he should. A Sacramento Bee investigation revealed in 2017 that thanks to that language, Californians have killed far more mountain lions since Proposition 117 passed then they did before.. Sun, Jan 29, 2023. . A much cheaper conversion but I did opt to get a 6Wolf barrel that I had them do a custom 4 hole porting on. Lets stop trying to impress each other with useless specifications and gobbly-gooky BS. His dad stopped a charging brown with a .500 S&W pistol a few years ago. Some dogs work together well enough to make a cat figure it's best to run but rarely will a pack of dogs be able to kill a cougar. My wife carries an old Model 60. Back in the 70s, this form of competition was only for revolvers. So far, Ive never seen anything bigger than a hare, but it never hurts to be careful. This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. Did they field dress and later skin it ? If you can't gain proficiency and carry something of reasonable power level, then go with spray. If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. # 3. I think anybody going into bear country should read the article about bear defense guns and ammo @ garrettcartridges.com This should answer most questions on the subject. However many decades ago, I was a PPC competitor. I have two dogs and they said that might provoke the bears. A good friend used to go to Alaska to fish. One lion can consume up to 20 or 30 pounds of meat in a single meal. The BS in this article is deep. To purchase a sidearm for bear country on GunsAmerica, click here. Though it is illegal under state law to kill a mountain lion to protect a pet, CPW has decided not to press charges. Yes I admit this was a freak happening. The young boy said he could not feel the teeth because they were dull, but Paul did feel the scratches from the big paw. Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. If not, always nice to have to many guns.. After wearing out a few S&W frames in 44mag, I switched to the short barreled Ruger Alaskan in 44mag. BTW the 2nd encounter was by a friend who was carrying that old M572 shots on a wounded grizzly same load did him in. Its very light and handy to carry. sure, sure, sure. Of course you can imagine the hysterical reactions that suggestion creates.. Bears have a way of sneaking up on you. He said while the animal tried to bite Pauls head, it didnt actually do it, only slightly clawing the boys back. We could provide billions of data bytes and not help with our purpose and goals. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. Black bear common senseoptions: You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a cougar or mountain lion in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. A picture shows a lamb and a mountain lion side by side. Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. Florida State Lawmakers Introduce 'Constitutional Carry', The Staccato CS Brings Real Performance to the Concealed, Meet ROSE: SIG SAUER's Complete Concealed Carry Solution for, Honolulu Issues First Concealed Carry License. Estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions are a specially protected species in California handloads push a to. Mention here of my favorite back woods carry gun, a 50 cal Desert Eagle bear in question! 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